Conversation with:
Frank
Wright
dialogue with a well known
river runner who is now a National park
service concessioner on Lake Powell

This interview, arranged and photographed by K. C. DenDooven and
conducted by his editor, Gaylord Staveley, appeared in Western
Gateways Magazine - Colorado River Issue - Spring 1967
River running
has traditionally been thought of as a young man's activity, an adventurous
kind of life that one leads before he settles down to the serious business
of making a living. By the time they are in their late twenties, many
fast water men find it necessary to turn to other, less romantic, more
remunerative primary pursuits. Norman Nevills, whose early expeditions
largely precipitated passenger carrying boat trips on the Colorado River
system, held that . . . . .
"by the time
a man was forty, it was time, from the physical standpoint, for
him to find adventure elsewhere."
But Frank Wright, who learned
his river running with Nevills, flew in the face of all this by beginning
a fast water career when he was in his fifties and pursuing it for some
twenty years. At this writing he is planning a forthcoming expedition
down the Colorado River with a group of
river friends.
Living in most parts of the
rural West requires a man to acquire many capabilities if he is to prevail
against the remoteness and the elements. Frank is a man of many talents,
a self-made man, and he has prevailed. When Lake Powell was created
he was sought out by a group interested in establishing a concession
operation along the shore of the Glen Canyon that
he knows so well. Since that time he has spent most of his time at the
Hall's Crossing marina, commuting periodically to his home in Blanding,
Utah, where this conversation took place.
PUBLISHER's NOTES: An interesting
sidelight of this interview is that Gaylord Staveley, managing Editor
of Western Gateways Magazine, and Frank Wright were once business
partners. they operated the commercial boat trips down the San Juan
and Colorado Rivers that were started by Norm Nevils.
Western Gateways: Frank,
at the time Lake Powell was formed, you
were still actively running the Colorado River and San Juan River. How
did you happen to make the transition to operation of a marina on Lake
Powell?
Frank Wright: Well, . . . .
a local man had come to me some
time before with the idea that the lake might act as a barrier between
some of the most scenic areas of Utah. He had conceived the idea
of a ferry connecting the two sides of the lake, and he presented
such a picture that it intrigued me.
Particularly because at that time there
were no recreation sites planned for the upper lake except at Hite,
and I knew that being near the head of Powell, this would be silted
up sooner or later. This man represented a group who hoped to develop
a site on the lake, and they wanted me to go in with them because of
my river experience and familiarity with boat operation.
I asked him to give me a couple of weeks
to think it out, and the idea seemed good. Hall's Crossing seemed like
the place for a recreational site on the San Juan County side of the
lake, so we got the ball rolling, got the endorsement of the county
commissioners, got a ferry franchise, and proposed our plan to our congressional
people whereby . . .
we could make Lake Powell more
than a barrier, and could establish facilities to help people enjoy
the lake.
Western Gateways: But
didn't' the development of recreational sites require approval of the
National Park Service?
Frank Wright: Yes,
and some time afterward we received word that the Hall's Crossing site
had been approved and that an official prospectus would be issued. when
that was done, we were able to submit the best competitive bid.
Western Gateways: In
effect, then, you had permission to go ahead and establish certain facilities
and services at Hall's Crossing. But wasn't
that pretty remote and inhospitable country in those days?
Frank Wright: I
should say so! There's quite a bit involved in going out to a gravel
beach where there's nothing, and setting up buildings and providing
electricity and water for your own use as well as the public's.
I thought I'd worked hard in
my life before, but this was something else!
In some places there wasn't even a track
out there, no road at all. But the county put a rudimentary road down
and we got some equipment in and started running our trips from there
with a 17 foot inboard-outboard boat, and just kept building and adding
so that we could give people the basic things they needed out there.
We still make our own electricity, and we have a water well, now, and
a new store. Our boat fueling complex is exactly like the one at Rainbow
Bridge, and we have slips and rental trailers and our own repair shop.
the Bureau of Public Roads people are doin' a little surveying out there
now, so we think things are going along pretty well.
Western Gateways: Hall's
Crossing has quite a historical importance, doesn't it?
Frank Wright: Yes,
there was quite an important cross-country route through there for several
years.
The Mormon
pioneers crossed at Hole In the Rock in 1880 on a wagon
ferry built by Charles Hall . . .
But later parties all crossed at Hall's
Crossing. I've never been able to find out whether Hall and his two
sons moved the Hole In The Rock ferry upstream to the better crossing
or not, but it would have been awfully difficult; probably they built
a new one there. Crossings were made at Hall's until 1885 or so, then
the route was abandoned in favor of crossings at Moab and Lee's Ferry.
Western Gateways: Then
your river running led to this. But how did you get involved with the
Colorado River?
Frank Wright: When
you ask that question, you're asking for a long story. Actually, it
happened because I once asked a question. In the 1940's my brother and
I were running a repair shop in Blanding, where my brother did the automobile
repairs and I did he heavy repair work and the welding.
One ay Norm
Nevills came in from Mexican Hat to get some work done,
. . .
. . . . . and I started asking him questions
about an article the Saturday Evening Post had just carried about
his river expeditions. Somewhere along the way Norm asked me if I thought
I'd like to run the Colorado River sometime, and I said I thought it
would be fun, interesting anyway.
"Well, maybe we can arrange it,"
Norm said, and if you knew Norm Nevills you'd know that meant quite
a bit! A couple of weeks later, in April, he invited me to go on a trip
from Bluff down to Mexican Hat. He had gotten a few friends together
and was taking an extra boat along - - I found out later - - to test
out a few prospective boatmen.
He put three of us in this extra boat together
and one of the other two had had about a half day's experience before,
but that was all. There were two other boats in the party and we'd watch
them and try to do what they did, but it didn't look like Norm was paying
any attention to us at all.
At lunchtime I asked Norm a few questions
and he said they were the right questions,
and in the afternoon we traded off and I got to run his boat for a while.
We really had a ball.
Two weeks later I got a phone call from
Norm asking if I wanted to take one of the longer San Juan trips, take
one passenger, along with another of the new boatmen and take turns
at the oars. So I went down the day before the trip and helped get it
ready.
That night I asked Norm, . . .
"Where's Mike?" . . .
. . . .and he said he was still in Blanding.
Next morning we got the boats down to the river and loaded them and
were ready to shove off and I asked him again, . . .
"Norm, where's Mike?"
. . . .
He rubbed his chin - - he had that way of
rubbing his chin - - and he sort of grinned and said, . . .
"Frank, Mike isn't coming.
It's up to you to take the boat through." . .
. . . .Well, that was the beginning.
Western Gateways: About
a year later, the Nevills were killed when their plane crashed. What
happened then?
Frank Wright: Jim
Rigg had started boating for Norm that summer - - 1949 - - and after
the crash Norm's mother asked Jim and me if we'd take over and continue
the trips. I'd felt at the time like I never wanted to see a boat again,
but she kept urging us, and so after things got settled down I talked
to Jim about it and he said, "Why not?", So . . . . . .
Western Gateways: So
in 1950 Wright and Rigg were in the river business. Didn't you run Colorado
River through the Grand Canyon in powerboats about that time?
Frank Wright: We
made two powerboat runs through the Grand Canyon on the Colorado River,
I think in 1952 and 1953. They were Cris Craft Express Cruisers, built
from precut parts and fiber glassed. They had straight inboard drive,
with 60 horsepower inboard engines. The only modifications were to increase
the rudder area so we had better steerage, and to replace the cabin
glass with plywood. We had troubles of course, with the sand eating
up the water pumps and with bent props, but otherwise they were a good
boat.
Western Gateways: Was
this the first time powerboats had been run through the Grand Canyon?
Frank Wright: No,
Ed Hudson had been through with the Esmerelda, he and Doc Marston, I
don't remember what year it was, then they ran again the next year with
Esmerelda II which I think was the same boat with a bigger engine. They
were having engine trouble, and then down through the section of rapids
called The Jewels . . . .
. . . .they got a hole poked
in the boat, so they left it, turned it loose and part of the
group went out in a helicopter and the rest went on through in
the other boat.
We found the boat at Forrester
Rapid, where the water had dropped and left it away up on
the shoe. when we tested the starter it worked, and the hole wasn't
very big, so we patched it and rolled the Esmerelda down to the water
on driftwood poles. There was a full tool kit aboard, plywood, screws,
and everything. We got it running, but every time we tried to gun the
engine it would die.
Next morning we could hardly wait until
breakfast was over and three of us went down and lifted the cylinder
head. It had barely cleared the bolts when I could see the gasket was
blown, so that two of the cylinders were fouling each other up. Well,
the gasket was quite wide, so I took a piece out of the edge of it and
made a cardboard pattern, and cut a new section to fit between the cylinders,
and we tightened it down, and started it, and it sounded good. Of course
everyone wanted to go for a ride, and I thought under a full load it
would blow again, but it didn't! Well, we took it on through, and when
we got to Lake Mead there was Ed Hudson who had come up, through curiosity,
and the first thing he wanted to do was see how it ran. So he got under
the wheel and opened it up and looked at the tach and said, "You
know that thing never did run that good for me!"
Western Gateways: At
that point, whose boat was it?
Frank Wright: Well,
of course we felt we were entitled to it since it had been turned loose
and washed ashore at Forester, and as salvage, it should have been ours.
. . . . .
But they had signed an agreement
with the Park Service that it was to go to the museum at the south
Rim, and we didn't want to go through a legal hassle to get it.
Western Gateways:
Then that experience with powerboats sort of precipitated the building
of your Criss Craft kit boats a year or two later, and your two power
runs. Why weren't the powerboat runs continued?
Frank Wright: Jim
Rigg decided to go to medical school, so we sort of terminated the partnership
casually, he took the powerboats and I kept the floatboats.
Western Gateways:
. . . and eventually you got out of the float trip business, too, didn't
you?
Frank Wright: Well,
I thought I had. In 1956 Gaylord Staveley went along with me as a passenger
on both the San Juan and Grand Canyon trips. He had married Norman Nevills'
daughter, Joan, and wanted a taste of river running. Then in 1957 he
asked me about becoming a boatman. Instead, after we talked it over,
he came in as a partner, and at the end of that year I sold out the
whole operation to him.
Western Gateways: That
was the second time you had tried to give up boating. What happened
to get you back on the river?
Frank Wright: An
Archeological Salvage Project. The Museum
of Northern Arizona and the University of Utah had been given
a grant by the National Park Service to locate and examine all important
archeological locations that would be covered by Lake Powell at its
highest possible level. This was on both the San Juan river and Colorado
River branches of the lake that would be forming behind Glen
Canyon Dam. Our group was assigned both sides of the San
Juan River, and the east bank of the Colorado River below the San Juan.
I bought a sixteen foot boat
and two outboard motors, and built a new San Juan type floatboat.
We also used an old rubber raft to carry supplies and equipment.
We also used an old rubber raft to carry supplies and equipment.
Western Gateways: What
specific things did this project involve?
Frank Wright: The
first year we did very little but an overall survey to find all the
sites we could. Later we went back and excavated them quite carefully,
and photographed each one. . . .
I'd say we found around three
hundred sites, and excavated perhaps a third of them. . . .
The force was headed in each case by archeological
people, and reports were compiled; they're available from the University
of Utah.
Western Gateways:
If memory serves, your group spent about a month excavating a prehistoric
irrigation system a few miles from the mouth of the San Juan.
Frank Wright: Yes,
we found a partially buried system of ditches, one of them rock-lined,
with a series of slab-rock weirs at about ten foot intervals to adjust
the flow of water as it went down this ditch.
Western Gateways: Was
the water source a catch-basin, or did it appear to be diverted from
the river?
Frank Wright: We
got into quite a controversy over this one. The archeologist was new
on the job and new in this part of the country. He thought one of the
main ditches was a catch-ditch, and that heavy rains would have run
down the sand and shale hills and gathered in this ditch at the base.
Now I'm not an archeologist, but I've lived in this part of the country
for a long time, and I know that rain doesn't run down that kind of
ground, it soaks in. If they ever got a rain that was heavy enough to
run down those hills without soaking in, it would be enough rain to
thoroughly irrigate their whole crop without needing the ditching system!
But he had his reason for what he believed, and so did I.
Western Gateways:
I suppose much of this work was pretty routine. Did you find anything
that intrigued you personally?
Frank Wright: Oh,
yes. There is tremendous complex of old trails used by the early Indians
to get into and out of the river canyon, and to cross the canyons that
enter the river. This is more evident down round Rainbow
Bridge on the east side where the Carmel Sandstone is eroded
away, leaving a shelf on top of the next layer, the Navajo Sandstone.
On this project, any time we found evidence of habitation in the canyon,
we would always find a trail up and out of the canyon. On top, there
would be more evidence, and the trail would continue. One of the things
that was most exciting to me was to find and trace out these trails.
We found a trail up onto Cummings Mesa,
and were, I think, the first white people to have gone up it. It would
follow a talus slope until it came to a ledge, climb the ledge, follow
it for maybe a half mile, then climb another talus slope, another ledge,
and so on.
Western Gateways: Was
the salvage project finished by the time Lake Powell rose behind the
dam?
Frank Wright: We finished late in
1961, several months before they started impounding water.
Western Gateways: Many
people think running the river offers an exciting and non routine way
to make a lot of money. Have you found this to be so?
Frank Wright:
I don't think anyone has ever made money running the river, at least
as a primary source of income.
Western Gateways: You've
been an observer for the U.S. Weather Bureau for a number of years.
Is this your answer to how to run the river and still make a living?
Frank Wright: Well,
the weather observations have provided us with our livelihood since
1939. We started in April that year, making four observations a day.
Then in a few months they wanted us to increase this to eight a day,
and that's the way it's been ever since.
Western Gateways: What's
involved in doing this?
Frank Wright: Well,
the observation is quite complete. there's . . . .
. . . . . .wind direction and
speed, relative humidity, barometric pressure, precipitation records,
not to mention twenty-nine different categories of cloud types,
plus cloud altitudes. then we supplement this with anything of special
interest that may be taking place.
Western Gateways: After
all those years, has it gotten to where the local people expect you
to predict the weather, too?
Frank Wright: Oh,
yes, but we were put on the right track about that in the beginning.
Forecasting is left to the forecasters, but they furnish us with a local
forecast once a day by radio from Grand Junction; we send that up to
the local radio station and they broadcast it.
Western Gateways: Your
observations, then are reported over short wave radio to Grand Junction?
Frank Wright: Yes,
but in the beginning we reported to Milford, Utah, then Hanksville.
In those days it was all reported by international Morse Code. I had
a little ham set in 1938 and the weather bureau came down and said they
were looking for someone to report local observations to them, and that
they'd give me a little money for stronger equipment if I'd take the
job on. I agreed, but didn't hear from them for a long time, and had
about forgotten it. Then just after Christmas that year the equipment
started showing up, so we set it up and got started.
Western Gateways: What
other things have you done?
Frank Wright: For
a while I worked in the coal mine at Sunnyside, and at the smelter in
Tooele. I had to quit that because I couldn't take the chemical reagents
they were using. Then I taught music for a number of years - - I've
studied music most of my life when I was thirteen I taught myself to
drive a Model T truck that belonged to my dad, while he was out of town
for a few days. Before I turned fourteen I was driving the mail from
Monticello to Bluff in the old Model T. One winter I lived in Bluff
with a brother and sister and drove to school in Blanding every morning
and back at night.
Western Gateways: Wasn't
that drive just about a day's work at that time?
Frank Wright: A
full day's work.
On the mail runs, If I
got back before five o'clock they'd accuse me of driving too
fast!
Once the magneto spring broke, and I had
to borrow a hairpin from a lady passenger and use it for a spring. We
made it in, too. Of course there were more pleasant times in the old
Model T, too - - driving down in the moonlight from a dance in Monticello
- - things like that.
Western Gateways: Tell
us a little about your family.
Frank Wright:
I met my wife when I was working in the mine at Sunnyside. She was a
school teacher then. In 1931 and '32 things got pretty tough and I took
a job in Nevada. My wife and youngsters moved here to Blanding to be
with my folks until I finished in Nevada. Our children make up what
we always refer to as a "basketball team plus a referee,"
and that's just about the way it went while they were all at home!
Western Gateways: Several
of your photographs have appeared in Arizona Highways Magazine. Are
you still active in photography?
Frank Wright: Somewhat,
but not like I used to be. Most of it now is in connection with our
boating business. I did have a portrait studio here, and usually had
a lot of business around Christmas time each year. I did school pictures
for a year or two, and still have my darkroom and all of my equipment.
Western Gateways: Having
known Glen Canyon extremely well, I suppose you miss it?
Frank Wright: Oh,
greatly. When I first started running on the new lake water out there
- - you know, Lake Powell, I'd invariably follow the old river cannel,
even though I knew that the rocks and trees were down under twenty or
thirty feet of water, and not a hazard. But there were landmarks, you
know, and we always ran the river a lot by landmarks. It was kind of
hard to see a lot of the scenic places go under, Music Temple and some
of those. I've seen people who had known those places before the lake
go back to look for them, and shed tears.
Most people I've questioned as to how they
felt about the lake say how beautiful it is, if it just wouldn't' get
any higher. Others say they just can't live until the day it is filled.
There are still lots of beautiful places,
interesting places, to see on the lake. It's opened up some interesting
places I had never seen before. I guess the thing I can say for it is
that a lot of people enjoy the lake who would have never ventured down
the river.
One of the big differences I've noticed
is t that the scout groups and young people's groups have quit coming.
they used to look forward to the float trip down Glen Canyon. They can't
afford powerboat trips, and so they have had to find other recreation.
I feel badly about this, but then there are a lot of people who come
and enjoy the lake. The season is longer than it was on the river. I
water skied down there one October, and we've had people down in late
December.
Western Gateways: Frank,
have you ever totaled up the number of miles you've logged in boats
of one kind or another?
Frank Wright: No,
I started to one day, and maybe someday I'll get it done. Counting lake
miles would be impossible, but I think I could come petty close to figuring
how many thousand river miles I've covered since the first day on the
San Juan in 1948.